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Vienna
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Username: vienna

Post Number: 328
Registered: 11-1998
Posted on Monday, August 29, 2005 - 4:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Otto of Roses

At twenty-one, he carved the exact shape
of his cheekbones into the wall at the corner
of Morley Street and Cleveland.
Police came, I laughed into the farthest
corner of disbelief, but he was still dead.
Instantaneous split second gone.

Beautiful in blue, the sort of satin light
just rolls on and off and plays with.
I could kiss the right side, anywhere between
temple and lips. ‘be careful of the nose,
we couldn’t do anything about the eye area-
but dressings are quite usual in these cases’.


The man I would have married but never
made love to is waxen cold.
A lock of hair curls into the skew hollow
of cracked collarbone, beneath blue is
bluer heart, stagnant lungs.
He is beautiful and smells of roses.

No one ventured further than the vestibule
staffed by the owl faced, stately man.
They left bouquets, wailed befittingly between
Scotch on the rocks and salmon sandwiches.
Mother, brothers, none wanting that last truth,
Die, and you are no longer what you were.

I remember the heaviness of your hand,
how your curl of fingers could not be undone.
How lips, although lifeless, still retained a colour
that invited a kiss; perfect curve, unbloodied
by speed and suddenness.
Izmir bazaar, Grasse; you come to me always.



'All of us get lost in the darkness
Dreamers learn to steer by the stars'
Neil Peart
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marty
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Username: marty

Post Number: 622
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Monday, August 29, 2005 - 8:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Vienna,
This left me breathless. This section/stanza was a brave attempt...

I remember the heaviness of your hand,
how your curl of fingers could not be undone.
How lips, although lifeless, still retained a colour
that invited a kiss; perfect curve, unbloodied
by speed and suddenness.

Those lines forced the reader to go and see, and be really close to a lifeless body, and see beauty in death. I felt that this was the center of the poem and the lines that had the most impact on this reader.

Beautiful writing

Cheers Brethren
Marty
Emusing
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Username: emusing

Post Number: 1665
Registered: 08-2003
Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 2:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi V,

S4 came as a chilling revelation. There being such fear in no longer occupying a body for many. I won't nit much because I love it all, just a little personal discomfort with "laughed into the farthest corner of disbelief." Seemed a slight bit of forced language.

Wonderful to read you, as always.

E
Jim Doss
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Username: jimdoss

Post Number: 1834
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 8:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

V,

Wonderfully written.

Jim
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M
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Username: mjm

Post Number: 5050
Registered: 11-1998
Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 12:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You did well with this one, my sister. Very intense opening -- I particularly liked "laughed into the farthest corner of disbelief." Odd the reactions we have at the height of trauma. When Miles died, I was saying some pretty idiotic things. Shock will do that to a person and you captured it well.

The only part that seemed awkward to me came here:

"Beautiful in blue, the sort of satin light
just rolls on and off and plays with."

I had to read it a couple of times to get the rhythm. I think breaking it differently would solve that problem:

"Beautiful in blue, the sort of satin
light just rolls on and off and plays with."

I might even go beyond just breaking that way and try not to end the sentence with the preposition "with." That always makes for a sort of discomfort.

But the rest was superb. Great work.

Vienna
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Username: vienna

Post Number: 329
Registered: 11-1998
Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 2:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks friends.

You know, this was meant for a challenge set weeks ago :-)
What disquieted me most was the memory of laughter, so I really am at a loss with that, M you like it, E, you didn't, mmm... a rephrase on this one is difficult ...suggestions most welcome.

Love, V

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Otto of Roses

At twenty-one, he carved the exact shape
of his cheekbones into the wall at the corner
of Morley Street and Cleveland.
Police came, I laughed into the farthest
corner of disbelief, but he was still dead.
Instantaneous split second gone.

Beautiful in blue, the sort of satin
light just rolls on and plays with.
I could kiss the right side, anywhere between
temple and lips. ‘be careful of the nose,
we couldn’t do anything about the eye area-
but dressings are quite usual in these cases’.


The man I would have married but never
made love to is waxen cold.
A lock of hair curls into the skew hollow
of cracked collarbone, beneath blue is
bluer heart, stagnant lungs.
He is beautiful and smells of roses.

No one ventured further than the vestibule
staffed by the owl faced, stately man.
They left bouquets, wailed befittingly between
Scotch on the rocks and salmon sandwiches.
Mother, brothers, none wanting that last truth,
Die, and you are no longer what you were.

I remember the heaviness of your hand,
how your curl of fingers could not be undone.
How lips, although lifeless, still retained a colour
that invited a kiss; perfect curve, unbloodied
by speed and suddenness.
Izmir bazaar, Grasse; you come to me always.

'All of us get lost in the darkness
Dreamers learn to steer by the stars'
Neil Peart
My poetry books at Lulu
http://people.lulu.com/users/index.php?fHomepage=101596
Dan Cox
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Username: dcox56

Post Number: 48
Registered: 08-2005
Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 8:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Vienna,
I really loved this. As for your problem with the memory of laughter in S1, I agree with M, it is an odd, but not unbelievable reaction. I was thinking of other verbs with less joyous connotations you might use, but nothing really fit. So, I say stick with laughed.

I also liked "wailed befittingly between Scotch on the rocks and salmon sandwiches." captured the awkward, forced emotion of a funeral. powerful work.
Kathy Paupore
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Username: kathy

Post Number: 2400
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 5:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Vienna, hard to say wonderful about a poem of loss, but you captured it wonderfully. Only bump for me was S2L2, I keep wanting to know "with" what, or maybe add a "that" at the beginning of the line: "that light just rolls on and plays with". But, maybe that's just me.

:-) K

LJ Cohen
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Username: ljc

Post Number: 2799
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 5:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Vienna,

The whole of stanza 4 is so strong. That stanza alone worth the price of admission here. My only question was the last line--the reference escapes me, sorry.

best,
ljc
http://ljcbluemuse.blogspot.com/
E V Brooks
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Username: lia

Post Number: 1268
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Monday, September 05, 2005 - 2:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is stunning writing Vienna. I have no suggestions of my own.. just fantastic, especially that final S. A fine read.

lia
Laurie Byro
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Username: lauriette

Post Number: 1211
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2005 - 3:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

fabulous poem, V, so glad to have read it. You get better and better.

Laurie

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